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		<title>How to Install Wire in Closed Wall</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 03:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is there an easy way to install electrical wire in a closed wall? I think that once you accept the fact that there will be some cutting and drilling and drywall dust ahead of you, you&#8217;ll be okay. But it&#8217;s no walk in the park. There are a number of ways to extend electrical wire [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there an easy way to install electrical wire in a closed wall?</p>
<p>I think that once you accept the fact that there will be some cutting and drilling and drywall dust ahead of you, you&#8217;ll be okay.  But it&#8217;s no walk in the park.</p>
<p>There are a number of ways to extend electrical wire along a wall.  You can install PVC or metal conduit on the outside of the wall and feed the wire through the conduit.  But you won&#8217;t be working with friendly ol&#8217; Romex wire.  You&#8217;ll be dealing with THHN (Thermoplastic High Heat-resistant Nylon) coated wire, which are separate strands of wire.  THHN isn&#8217;t really all that hard to work with, but it&#8217;s unique if you&#8217;re accustomed to dealing with Romex.</p>
<p>So, both the conduit method and the in-wall method have major pros and cons.  Here, we&#8217;re dealing just with retroactively installing electric wire in a closed wall.  By &#8220;closed,&#8221; we mean a wall that already has drywall installed.</p>
<h2>1.  Find the Studs in the Wall</h2>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1383" title="Find Studs in the Wall" src="http://www.EasyRenovate.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Find-Studs.JPG" alt="Find Studs in the Wall" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>I rarely use an electronic stud-finder anymore, preferring a magnetic type of stud finder.  This stud finder uses super-strong rare earth magnets to find the nails or screws holding the drywall to the studs.</p>
<p>Find studs on either side.  They will be most likely 16 inches apart.</p>
<h2>2. Mark a Square for Cutting</h2>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1384" title="Mark a Square Between Studs" src="http://www.EasyRenovate.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Mark-a-Square-Between-Studs.JPG" alt="Mark a Square Between Studs" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>Here I am using a box top to mark out a square for cutting.  The square needs to be big enough for you to fit your cordless drill into.  Other than that, any shape or size is fine.</p>
<h2>3.  Cut Out Hole with Reciprocating Saw</h2>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1385" title="Cut Out Square with Reciprocating Saw" src="http://www.EasyRenovate.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Cut-Out-Square-with-Reciprocating-Saw.JPG" alt="Cut Out Square with Reciprocating Saw" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>Cut out the square with the reciprocating saw.  Here, I am cutting out a door hinged on the left side.  I have cut only three size of the square, leaving the left side uncut.  You&#8217;ll see why I did this later.</p>
<h2>4.  Use Screwdrivers to Get a Grip on Drywall &#8220;Door&#8221;</h2>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1386" title="How to Pull Out Drywall Door" src="http://www.EasyRenovate.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/How-to-Pull-Out-Drywall-Door.JPG" alt="How to Pull Out Drywall Door" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>Another type of &#8220;door&#8221; you can cut is hinged on the bottom.  Again, whatever works best for you.</p>
<p>Neatness doesn&#8217;t really matter, since you&#8217;ll be drywalling over your cuts.</p>
<h2>5.  Snap Drywall &#8220;Door&#8221; Down</h2>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1392" title="Drywall Door Hinges Downward" src="http://www.EasyRenovate.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Drywall-Door-Hinges-Downward.JPG" alt="Drywall Door Hinges Downward" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>With the &#8220;hinge on the bottom&#8221; version, I simply swing the &#8220;door&#8221; down until I snap the drywall off.  But be careful not to rip the paper hinge; leave this intact.</p>
<h2>6.  Option:  The Hinge on the Side Version</h2>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1393" title="Drywall Door Hinged on the Side" src="http://www.EasyRenovate.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Drywall-Door-Hinged-on-the-Side.JPG" alt="Drywall Door Hinged on the Side" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>Or, you can hinge the &#8220;door&#8221; to the side.  Whatever works.  This &#8220;snap&#8221; was a lot cleaner than the one in the previous step, for some reason or another.</p>
<h2>7.   Drill Hole in Stud</h2>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1394" title="Drill Hole in Stud" src="http://www.EasyRenovate.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Drill-Hole-in-Stud.JPG" alt="Drill Hole in Stud" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>Drill a hole for your Romex wire with a 1/2&#8243; or 3/4&#8243; spade bit.</p>
<h2>8.  Push Wire Through Stud</h2>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1395" title="Push Wire Through Hole in Stud" src="http://www.EasyRenovate.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Push-Wire-Through-Hole-in-Stud.JPG" alt="Push Wire Through Hole in Stud" width="400" height="300" /></p>
<p>Slide the wire through the hole in the stud.</p>
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		<title>Easy Electrical Box Installation</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The novice soon finds out that being a pretend electrician isn&#8217;t just wires and amperage&#8211;it&#8217;s also about having to install boxes in drywall with a certain amount of skill. Now, an electrician does this so frequently that he doesn&#8217;t even think about it.  But the beginner is often left mystified at how to match the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The novice soon finds out that being a pretend electrician isn&#8217;t just wires and amperage&#8211;it&#8217;s also about having to install boxes in drywall with a certain amount of skill.</p>
<p>Now, an electrician does this so frequently that he doesn&#8217;t even think about it.  But the beginner is often left mystified at how to match the electrical box up with the hole in the drywall.  One thing the beginner may first try is to make some measurements, then cut a hole in the drywall, and then (cross fingers) hope to God that the hole and box match up.  Usually they don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>A more predictable way is to ignore hole-to-box placement for the time being.  You lay up the drywall and screw it into place.  Then you have to locate the invisible box and cut out the hole.  While &#8220;more predictable,&#8221; you still have to find the box&#8211;another skill that beginners working with boxes have a hard time with.</p>
<p>Another way to do it is to install an &#8220;old work&#8221; electrical box in new work drywall.  I can already see an entire nation of electricians cringing&#8230;</p>
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<h1>Hard Renovate:</h1>
<h2>Nail electrical box to stud.  Then either pre-cut the hole in the drywall or cut the hole after drywall has been installed.</h2>
<p><img class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-1372" title="Nail On Electrical Box" src="http://www.EasyRenovate.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Nail-On-Electrical-Box-250x250.jpg" alt="Nail On Electrical Box" width="250" height="250" /></td>
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<h1>Easy Renovate:</h1>
<h2>Install an &#8220;old work&#8221; or cut-in electrical box in new sheet of drywall.</h2>
<p><img class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-1373" title="Old Work Electrical Box" src="http://www.EasyRenovate.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Old-Work-Electrical-Box-250x250.png" alt="Old Work Electrical Box" width="250" height="250" /></td>
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<h3>Why Hard?</h3>
<p>Will the hole in the drywall match placement of the electrical box?  Dunno.</p>
<p>One of the skills that real electricians have is that of nailing electrical boxes to studs and then cutting holes in the drywall to fit around that opening.</p>
<p>You can either pre-cut the hole in the drywall and hope that the drywall hole miraculously matches the placement of your electrical box.  Or, you can install the drywall over the box and then use a saw to cut out that opening.  It&#8217;s difficult for DIY home remodelers.</td>
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<h3>Why Easy?</h3>
<p>No worries about where the hole will land.</td>
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<h3>Method:</h3>
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<li>Nail electrical box to stud.</li>
<li>Cut precise hole in drywall.</li>
<li>Install drywall, hoping that hole meets box.</li>
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<p>Or,</p>
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<li>Nail electrical box to stud.</li>
<li>Hang drywall.</li>
<li>Cut around box with hand saw, Dremel, or similar rotary saw.</li>
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<h3>Method:</h3>
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<li>Cut hole in drywall for electrical box.</li>
<li>Hang drywall.</li>
<li>Pull wires out through the hole far enough to work on your electrical box.</li>
<li>Install box.</li>
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<h3>Material:</h3>
<p>A nail-on electrical box, usually with attached nails.</td>
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<h3>Material:</h3>
<p>This goes by several names, all of which mean basically the same thing:</p>
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<li>Cut-in electrical box</li>
<li>Old work electrical box</li>
<li>Remodel electrical box</li>
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<h3>Pros and Cons</h3>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Pros:</span></p>
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<li>Perfectly solid electrical boxes.</li>
<li>Sealed and approved (with a kiss) by electricians.<span style="text-decoration: underline;"><br />
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<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Cons:</span></p>
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<li>Takes some practice to line up boxes to holes (or even to cut out holes), by which time the average DIYer&#8217;s job is finished.</li>
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<h3>Pros and Cons</h3>
<p>Pros:</p>
<ul>
<li>Perfect hole-to-box placement every time.</li>
<li>Less wasted drywall.</li>
</ul>
<p>Cons:</p>
<ul>
<li>Considered a half-assed method by electricians.</li>
<li>Not nearly as solid as nailing a box to the stud.</li>
<li>It&#8217;s really done for old work (that is, drywall that has already been installed) instead of new work.</li>
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